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Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 53 Location: In Christ
Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:13 pm |
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Well this post is the exact take off of ask corpse except a different perspective of things. I will try to answer your questions straight from the word of god.
So fire them at us and we will answer. |
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:12 pm |
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righto, i want anyone that gets a question answered glorifies god, not me. my own wisdom is nothing compared to god's, and most of my answers will be coming straight from His word, so yeah.
i don't want this to start a fight or somehting, but one thing i don't want in here is piles and piles of JW, mormon, atheist or whatever rubbish in here. the old saying, "one bullet, one kill" applies here. i don't want 500 word posts of anti-christian ammunition being flung at anyone in here, because at the end of the day it will achieve nothing, just alot of bored people with heads filled with contradicting statements from contradicting sides. fred, whoever the hell you are, i want you to think how trying to bulldoze us with pages of "facts" is going to be of any help to you. i won't budge. norman won't budge. wilkins, penny, elle, walters, and all the rest won't budge. trying to crush christianity didn't work in the roman colloseum (spelling), when christians were slaughtered in their thousands, or in communist poland, or in modern day china, so why the hell do you think it will work here? experience shows that if you want to hurt christianity, you change it, change it again and again until you have something warped and unrecognisable like mormonism, or christadelphians, or patrick.
i am aware that i am contradict myself by making a rather long post, but this is nothing compared to some of the shit i've seen on here in only a few hours and its not just the anti-christians that do it either. |
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Jr W SilverSnake...
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 3785 Location: Border City
Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:07 pm |
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Here's a question for you. Why Christianity? What makes Christianity the CORRECT religion? Why not Islam, Budhism, Confucism, Shintoism, Hindu or anything else?
This is a serious question actually.
And if you're going to mention bible verses, please actually say them and don't just refer me because I don't know where my bible is and don't really want to clog up the Wiki servers. _________________ "Knowledge is power, so everybody download some more eBooks" - WBB
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:10 pm |
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i really hate to be a jew here, but why atheism?
answering questions with questions can often answer a question at the same time as lending the original question a new depth. tricky to do though without annoying everyone, but i'm getting there... |
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Jr W SilverSnake...
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 3785 Location: Border City
Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:12 pm |
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Aetheism? I don't believe I've ever said that.
You can regard me as "Religion Undecided" for the purposes of this exercise. _________________ "Knowledge is power, so everybody download some more eBooks" - WBB
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:32 pm |
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i don't really want to leave that unanswered, but at the same time i want to go to bed, so can we make this quick?
it doesn't really bother me what religion you are, in my opinion you're either a christian, which would be great, or you're not which would be not so great. i'm so biased because i know with my entire being that i'm not going to hell when i die. i am so sure of this because of all the amazing things that happen when you praise god.
i know that by saying this i raise the question "was it god or coincidence?", but personal experience tells me that strange, unexplainable things happen when you praise Him. things like suddenly finding yourself in a time that was at least twenty minutes ago. stuff like being slain in the spirit. stuff like telling the pouring rain to stop and the sky is clear with a few splotches of cloud 5 minutes later. i have experienced all of these things, so i KNOW there is a god, otherwise these things would not happen at odds of billions to one. |
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:38 pm |
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patrick thinks miracle's don't happen, well i think patrick is a fool, not just because of his religion-related ramblings, because hey, that's religion, and i respect that. he is a fool because he makes a competition out of everything, because he preaches a religion that he doesn't even believe in, just to win the argument. now that i've written that out it seems even more stupid. its like somebody endorsing a product when they know that the product is obsolete.
just a quick one here, fred spends alot of time bad-mouthing christians on here. i just thought i'd take that opportunity to challenge him to find a single group of people in the entire world that doesn't have a degree of hatred of those that do not fit into that group. he can start with communism if he likes.
i'm gonna leave it there, need bed, but hey, watch this space. |
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Ads gtfo - cc
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 3778 Location: Wherever the voices tell me.
Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:15 pm |
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Haha, Fred barely posts on Thoih anyway! _________________
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Mr Mittens Moderator
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 1500 Location: Ireland
Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:19 pm |
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I like elliot being on here...
Quote: | Here's a question for you. Why Christianity? What makes Christianity the CORRECT religion? Why not Islam, Budhism, Confucism, Shintoism, Hindu or anything else?
This is a serious question actually. | Because it is? Its not like 'you must have faith and hope it all works out well in the end', things are happening here and now and it makes you think 'oh, shit ay, this was real. Oops.'
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tehmwak
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 96
Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:31 pm |
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Why do all the priests IVE ever talked to want to be called father???
Even when the bible says not too............. _________________ Please dont completely disregard me...
Only Semi-disregard me... |
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inf0rm3r Guest
Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:27 pm |
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your talking about catholics that isnt christianity get your facts right. We don't have priests. You just pwned yourself once again. |
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Wilkins Moderator
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 3452 Location: What?
Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:28 pm |
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Catholics are Christian Ben _________________
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inf0rm3r Guest
Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:29 pm |
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Na they are way off. They are wrapped in traditional ways and religion. They don't even give their lives to Jesus. |
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I am Mario!
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 1149 Location: Japan
Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:42 pm |
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Christian = Believe in God???
Once again with the denominations, burn them all! It's the same God people! _________________ Just Joshin'!
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Salvation
Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 195
Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:16 pm |
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J Dizzle wrote: | Christian = Believe in God???
Once again with the denominations, burn them all! It's the same God people! |
I don't myself see the need to distinguish the many of groups of Christian Religion (for now we will say that it is belief in god and/or Christ). The bible is meant to be a book in which man (or woman) is meant to follow the guidelines of. If this is true, then how do these religious groups draw different conclusions on the rules provided in the Bible. I'm not questioning the beliefs of the religious but rather how so many religions can sprout from the one book that says man should only follow the one true path of god. _________________ Shameless filthy wretches, bask is my glory and worship me for I am your lord and Salvation! |
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:32 pm |
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now, about those catholics. first, they are to be neither representative nor examplary of me as a christian. righto, they are christian, or most of them are, some of them just sit in church and say they are christian/catholic when the census comes around. i define christianity as belief that christ [sonofgod] led a perfect life, free of sin, and died on a cross. catholics (on paper) believe that, so they get in. they ARE however a long way from what the bible teaches, worshipping mary, calling their priests "father", and molesting little boys. many people characterise all christians under these catholic beliefs (ahem, PATRICK), when in fact, if you actually GO to, say, st mary's church on a sunday morning, you will find it almost empty, say about 50 people(unless it has changed alot), which is pretty crap for such a huge building.
catholicism has been coming up on here a fair bit lately, so i thought that should be cleared up. now just don't ask me about those other churches, like lutherans and anglicans and all them. |
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Jr W SilverSnake...
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 3785 Location: Border City
Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Christian = believes Jesus was what he said he was.
Jews still believe in God. They're not Christian. And there was Judaism a long time before Christianity. Possibly because there was Judaism before a Christ to be anitied but my point is, I think there's something in Judaism. _________________ "Knowledge is power, so everybody download some more eBooks" - WBB
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inf0rm3r Guest
Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:02 pm |
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Quote: | Jews still believe in God. They're not Christian. |
Jews are christians come to my church mate. |
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I am Mario!
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 1149 Location: Japan
Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:21 pm |
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SOLDIER, 1st Class wrote: | J Dizzle wrote: | Christian = Believe in God???
Once again with the denominations, burn them all! It's the same God people! |
I don't myself see the need to distinguish the many of groups of Christian Religion (for now we will say that it is belief in god and/or Christ). The bible is meant to be a book in which man (or woman) is meant to follow the guidelines of. If this is true, then how do these religious groups draw different conclusions on the rules provided in the Bible. I'm not questioning the beliefs of the religious but rather how so many religions can sprout from the one book that says man should only follow the one true path of god. |
It's a big book.
Oh and technically I am Catholic, I was baptised as a Catholic when I was only a wee little child and yeah, I've been to Catholic churches and Protestant churches, they aren't that different. And you are just contradicting yourself Elliot, telling people not to judge Christians by a few acts, but judging Catholics in particular because of things that have happened on the news. The Catholic people I know are still as equally devoted to God as anyone else I know. I just don't get it. _________________ Just Joshin'!
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dosthecat
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Ippie, QLD
Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:44 pm |
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i was saying not to judge all christians on the things by which they judge catholicism. what goes on in my church and what goes on in a catholic church are completely different things. |
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Jr W SilverSnake...
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 3785 Location: Border City
Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:00 pm |
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inf0rm3r wrote: | Quote: | Jews still believe in God. They're not Christian. |
Jews are christians come to my church mate. |
Stop being a jab it in ya and read my post. _________________ "Knowledge is power, so everybody download some more eBooks" - WBB
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inf0rm3r Guest
Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:42 pm |
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come to my church i dont read peoples posts. |
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Jr W SilverSnake...
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:41 pm |
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I won't read yours then. _________________ "Knowledge is power, so everybody download some more eBooks" - WBB
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Wilkins Moderator
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 3452 Location: What?
Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:06 pm |
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You know. Catholics are Christians.. just a lot of them dont seem to commit. For example: The lead vocalist and guitarrist for Slayer believes in God. The Drummer for Deicide is a Catholic and believes in God. Alice Cooper, when he was doing his "thang" was a un-commited Christian. Nicko McBrian (sp?) from Iron Maiden was a Christian. _________________
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Ads gtfo - cc
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 3778 Location: Wherever the voices tell me.
Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:44 pm |
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Errrm, It doesnt' matter who they are or what they do, people of beliefs and faiths are equal, I mean sure. Some people may be more involved than others but just because they are famous doesn't mean much. _________________
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Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 1083 Location: Boooval
Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:52 pm |
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it means that christians whether catholic or not can still be popular |
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the gift horse
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:32 pm |
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some questions.
1. How can you reconcile the existence of churches and your desire for prayer in schools when Jesus said to do the exact opposite in Matthew 6:5-6? I quote:
'And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.'
2. In Matthew 22:29-30, Jesus says 'You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.' Now, where in the bible do we find the scriptures Jesus is talking about? You won't find them. In fact, the scriptures reffered to actually come from the Book of Enoch. Now for the interesting part, the Book of Enoch is not considered to be the word of God. So either Jesus was quoting in error, meaning he is not divine, or the bible is not infallible. Which is it?
3. Can you show me a place in the bible where sex between two consenting, unmarried persons is said to be a sin?
4. How do you reconcile your own large number of material possesions with Matthew 19:21: 'Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.'?
5. Can you show me a place in the bible where Jesus claims to be God, despite the contradiction it would create with Mark 10:18: '"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."'?
hint: the terms christ and messiah do not imply divinity, they translate to 'annointed one.' Even the messiah was never prophesised to be divine.
6. In Leviticus 19:19, God says 'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.' and yet, if I recall correctly, your own school uniform is a mix of polyester and cotton. How can you call yourself christian, while blatantly ignoring the words of your own God? |
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Mr Mittens Moderator
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:05 pm |
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haha, gift horse (if that is your real name...) you dont really care, you just like asking questions _________________ You used to be like my twin |
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Wilkins Moderator
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 3452 Location: What?
Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:21 pm |
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Yes Mr Mittens yes.. probably a cut and paste job too. _________________
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the gift horse wrote: | 6. In Leviticus 19:19, God says 'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.' and yet, if I recall correctly, your own school uniform is a mix of polyester and cotton. How can you call yourself christian, while blatantly ignoring the words of your own God? |
hahaha, that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard... clothes made of two different materials? hahahaha why not??? what a stupid thing to tell people not to do.
I have a feeling someone (God) was on a powertrip that day... _________________
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