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Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:47 pm |
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This will get kick started tomorrow (hopefully).
What was the sermon you heard today on? What did you learn from it? If anything 
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Kung-Fu
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:33 am |
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I don't go to church but I did learn something on my Christian channel (go Optus Digital!).
There was this man from Texas named Joel Osteen. He was speaking of good and bad habits. It's easy to get into a bad habit, but harder to get out of it, and it ends up consuming your life. He used the example of drug addiction... It was easy to get started, but then you become dependent on it if you don't stop. And then it's hard to get off the drug. However good habits, they're harder to get into.
But what would you prefer? No effort or suffering to get into a bad lifestyle that will lead to suffering? Or putting a little bit of effort in, and suffering a little bit, for something that'll make your life a whole lot better? Ultimately that little bit of suffering won't mean a thing once you get into that good habit.
Practice makes perfect right? Practice the good things. And ask God to give you the strength to practice the good things. Even if it's something as small as just walking away when someone's offended you. If you keep doing it, you'll become a much calmer person. The whole forgiveness concept comes into that too.
Of course, you're going to be tempted to do the wrong thing from time to time. Everybody gets tempted. The key is to not give in. Ask God to give you the strength to say no.
I can't remember what part of the bible this is from but:
| Quote: | | Pray that you do not come into temptation. |
The End ect.
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:35 pm |
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one of my least favourite things in my own life, having to do this every other time.
| Quote: | | I can't remember what part of the bible this is from but... |
i'm getting the hang of it though, through this thing i'm putting together...
last night, this is to back up eliza's one, but i realised that it isn't how hard it is to give something up, but how hard it looks. yeah... after youth i went to the park, prayed, asked god to reveal something to me.
'violence'.
i got that stupid feeling that gets between you and god, procrastinated, did three heaves (kind of like a chinup. i'm taking up a policy of doing either 3 heaves or eight pushups everytime i procrastinate), and got rid of all the fire. i emptied the can of lighter fluid, i didn't want to leave it around for anyone to find, not even in a bin, because someone might try to inhale it to get high and kill themselves... so i just held my breath and pushed it against concrete... threw the empty can away.
same for the jetlighter, and flamethrower, only i didn't throw them away. i have a better idea...
but yeah, in that it wasn't the actualy act... because as i watched the aerosol butane flow over the concrete, i felt something lifted from me... i knew i had to do this for my own freedom, but before i'd made the choice was the hardest part... when god says to do something, you have all kinds of things telling you not to. just think, it's not hard for someone to give up drugs after they've gone to the rehab centre, it's when they're about to get into the car to head to the rehab centre, because the decision isn't yet concrete.
but you don't wanna go against god, because He knows what's best for you, and if you don't obey you can only be hurting yourself. |
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I am Mario!
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Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:30 pm |
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Yeah the pastor at Pring St said something almost identical a few months back, something like...
Bad habits are easy to establish, but hard to live with.
Good habits are hard to establish, but easy to live with.
Note: Ok, I know that this isn't the right topic, but swearing is a bad habit.
Well the wonderful thing about having 2 churches is getting 4 sermons a week (2 youth, 2 church).
Yesterday at Vision was about worship being a response. And it was also a bit about love languages and such. I guess I came to the realisation that the love language that jariah and I shared sorta changed and failed.
Pring St was special yesterday. The guy who used to be in charge of Missions at AOG churches (like we're talking the big deal) preached and the stories were amazing. I guess one of the best moments was when he was talking about how hindus and everyone else all have thousands and thousands of gods, and he even said "lower case g gods", it was quite lol. There was a real message of "tell the world" which has been occuring a lot recently (the thing with more sermons, you start to find similarities in all of them and realise what God is trying to tell you). There was also a story of a tribe in India that was one of those remote ones that had never had contact with Christians or heard of God or anything, instead they worshipped idols and carvings. Anyway a missionary decided that he was going to go to this tribe to teach them about God and he did all the research, he talked to other missionaries and they said no one had any contact with the tribe, he learnt all the signals and gestures that he needed to know and he was fully prepared. Now he turned up to the village and walked up to the elder and asked if he could stay the night. In the morning he woke up and was wondering how he was going to communicate the message of Jesus to them and what would happen to him. Later on all of the people in the tribe all rushed to the centre of the village and he went along to see what was happening. When he got there he saw that one of the tribespeople was carrying a wooden cross. Now the man knew that this tribe had had no contact with missionaries or anything so he was shocked. The man carrying the cross took it to an area where they have a prepared hole and they placed the cross in it and began bowing to it and one of them yelled out "Thank you god who hangs on the cross". Afterwards the missionary talked to one of the leaders of the tribe and asked how it was that they knew Jesus, and the leader said "who?". This went on until the leader realised he was talking about the the god who hangs on the cross. He explained how about 20 years ago their tribe was being persecuted by rebels (or something, can't remember the detail) but yeah there were men with guns going through the hills and killing tribes. They had heard about them before and they were afraid. The rebels made them dig their own graves and stand in front of them so that when they were shot they would fall into their graves. They were afraid and they began to call out to their "lower case g" gods to save them when a women pointed out a vision in the distance of a man hanging on a cross. (he said something to them, can't remember what though). And yeah they saw this god hanging on the cross and began to praise him, and at the end they turned around and the soldiers had all fled. After the tribe leader told the story the missionary was still a little confused and asked if they knew this god, for as far as they knew he was just another one of their thousands of gods, but they knew that there was something special about him that made him better than all the others. Then the missionary told the tribe that he knew this God and his name is Jesus and they were so excited and so he preached to them the word of God. NOW IS THAT INSPIRING OR WHAT!?!?!
So yeah, I love church .
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Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:04 pm |
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(the thing with more sermons, you start to find similarities in all of them and realise what God is trying to tell you).
amen. last year, or maybe the one before (the important thing was i tied an onion to my belt, as it was the style at the time) i went to vineyard. i didn't go regularly, alot of the 'stronger' christians didn't either, they did variation in their churching. one week, a woman stood up and told us about the importance of eph 6, the armour of god. many in the audience sighed, 'this again', which tells me that it came up last week, and by the number of people sighing possibly the week before.
the next week, a visiting speaker went into the passage in great depth, talking about the places of the individual parts of armour and their roman counterparts. the next week, my sister came, stood up and told again about eph 6, as she had been absent the previous meeting.
little old me, sees what's going on, is quite sick of all this talk. gets up, takes mic, and says what god has been waiting for. "alright, we all have our armour? great, we're un-touchable. now, instead of hiding in our cosy little corners of our comfy little castles (churches), saying "we're safe", why don't we leave the walls and slay the dragon?'
i'm not a speaker, but i got cheers. i find that god will give you something until you get exactly what he wants you to get out of it, and through me the church had heard what god wanted it to hear.
aside, to fill in some details of josh's post, the village was in cambodia, it was a subsistance village with little to no outside contact. the village was attacked by the khmer rouge, who were operating to exterminate anyone who wasn't in support of communism (i think)... |
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Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:33 pm |
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aww, don't make me double-post!
am i the only one learning stuff at church?
well, i learned truckloads of learnination over the weekend. to save inserting names, all quotes by trevor chandler and approximate to my own memory unless stated otherwise.
| Quote: | | The most destructive force in the world isn't the nuclear weapon, the firearm, or biological. The single most destructive force in the world is sin. |
just think, the eternal Son of God, as he became sin, was reduced to a hideous, quivering wreck of a man by perhaps the most brutal death ever. i don't know where this comes from, but it's a biblical principle that Jesus, upon the cross became sin. his very essence 'absorbed' our own sin, purifying us.
| Quote: | | Sin can only be atoned for by death, death has always been necessary to life. Just think every time you sit down to a meal, even if you're a vegan, a living organism gave up it's life so that you may live. |
when i think of something giving up it's life so that we may live, i only think of One...
i could go on all day about what i learned over the weekend, and what i've had confirmed, but yeah... those two points alone are worthy of piles of books. series' of sermons... so i'll leave it. |
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