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Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:59 pm |
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Teenage love is overrated. This is not a Wilkins style knock at a generalisation (how you doin). I honestly believe that maintaining a successful relationship is a necessity.
Admittedly it is nice to be in a relationship, and quite often a sharp learning experience when it all goes awry. But I'm in grade 12, and I have no obligations. It's great. No one to plan a weekend around, no longing to see a person I spoke to 5 minutes ago, non-existent phone bill.
I'm not saying that any of the above is bad, and in fact I like being in a relationship (I remember...), however it is not everything. Your thoughts?
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I got God and my friends.
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Being in a relationships isn't anything but when you're in it, it can feel like its everything. As you can tell, some couples believe that the only thing keeping them alive is their relationship, those people are idiots a lot of the time. A relationship in high school is more often then not 'practise' for the real world and nothing more. There is the rare case (adam and debbie) when is might MIGHT actually work out in the end, but still there's usually no hope.
Since about grade 9 I finally realised that this isn't the real world, its just playing house with another person. I called it for what it was - 'practice.' While i have been in some other relationships since then I always made sure not to fall into this fake world too much, i had hope, but i was not blind to it.
I actually found it was great to plan your weekends around them, you you find the right person and actually want to spend every moment with then then life is good. Relationships are a big learning experience in finances, human behaviour and time management.
I like relationships, I'm not really looking for one at the moment but if things happen then im happy with it. For all of you out there that are insanly in love, wake up. Open your eyes and use your head.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:24 pm |
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Agreed Chris.
For me, I've been an idiot pimp all through school..
The only relationship I get into now will be one God has planned for me.
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Here we go, finally a non Wilkins-based discussion on love  ..Sorry Wilkins, but its fun to say something likes that. Hmm, I dont actually know where to start, but I think I’m going to hit it up with the Good Vs. Bad part of the argument. From what I've read in your post (Chris), the 'obligations' of "planning the weekend around each other", "phone bills" and what not, these things may seem a bit yucky, but in reality it isn't that bad. Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with these massive phone bills and dickheads who message all day. But your part about planning around on the weekend can actually be a good thing.
You can spend the much awaited time with them, virtually stress free and just have plain old fun, plus I guess it is also one of those things that helps you grasp your hands on time management. I still, leave things until the later time, but the management needs to be more....utilized? Meh, whatever. But, non the less, having someone that you so eagerly want to spend time with is so great.
I think i'm going to go ahead and assume that by "Teenage love", you mean many Teenage relationships in general (Generic properties much?, Yeah, thats you...shut up Eliza). But, I think being stable with one single person is necessary, plus it will also show where all of your priorities lay. You get people that jump beds/partners and when you think about it, all they have to show is that they aren't secure enough to hold down a relationship.... Thats all, pretty sad really, keeping it sucessful is both the fun part and if you're in the right boat, the easy part.
Another point that I'm going to go right ahead with is a learning experience. I 100% (one hundred percent) agree with you there mate, there are so many values and lessons that can be learnt being in a relationship. You learn how to deal with your own emotions, you learn how to be yourself, you learn that you can actually have someone you can completely trust. But with all of these good things, you have to realise the power that you hold. Not only that, but you learn all new things about not only your partner, but you learn new things about yourself. You learn different ways that you go about things, such as different ways that you can improve yourself, or improve something that may cause disorder.
Like Shane said, being in a relationship might not mean anything to some people, but to others it might mean more than you can maybe even think of. Perhaps bein gin a relationship might be your only way of achieving absolute happiness? But, perhaps for some, it might be practice for the 'real deal'? I.e. Valuable learning experience, knowing how to treat the person that you really do care about.
I think that I've learnt so many lessons over the past years, I've realised that there is only one person out there for someone, and if you slip up somewhere, you need to try your best to work some sort of solution out. There is absolutely no point in being with several people and not feel anything, it is pointless and a waste of time.
I'm a big sucker for relationships, I'm so glad that i'm in one with Debbie..and that is an understatement, I cannot express how everything makes me feel, its just so intense. Instant love is a load of poppy-cock, no such thing..There are different stages to all relationships, no matter what anyone says... I'm right damn it...Love is one thing that takes a variable amount of time to determine. You need to know your partner from the extremities inside and out, know them better than yourself. Know how they work, how they think and how things work between you to.
I do believe in love at first sight though.... Not in literal terms, but the basic idea of it.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:19 pm |
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I know a few people that were in relationships in High-school, they're happily married with children now. Coops's parents met, and started dating at 14.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:24 pm |
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Adam while it may have seemed like it, I wasn't painting the weekend planning thing in a negative light. Otherwise top notch post.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:31 pm |
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I agree with what you said Adam to the fullest extent
Except the love at first sight stuff is complete bullshit. People play love up to be some magical thing but its just a process, its just like building a friendship with some extra twists and turns. Love at first sight - Liking what you see and nothing else.
If we're going to believe in love at first sight then start the wedding plans I think I'm marrying Larrisa. She's hot, thats it. Some people just judge it on first impressions, some people dont want a relationships all they want is a screw. I could name some people right now but for the sake of blah blah blah you know well and truly who i mean.
Those people that go out there looking for a good time need to wake up to reality and fast. I hope someone gets preggers so you can realise what a cock you really are.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:44 pm |
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Shane you have no concept of love at first sight. Sure it might not be literally based on sight. You can however kick off a friendship at first contact. Or even kick off a romantic interest. Once this happens however it is up to you to establish the frienship side of things.
Love is like a building. You can build the frame and then add walls to make it a package. Or you can start with the walls. But you better stick a fram in there or the thing will fold.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:59 pm |
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We're building a friendship - Check
We've got the backhistory with eachother - Check
I have access to her friends to find stuff out - Not yet
Shes hot - Triple check
Lets build this thing! Its a bit wonky, but we can make it up as we go.
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:02 pm |
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Just look at her Myspace to find out stuff.
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Worked for Jimmy.
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Yeah, I know you weren't painting it into the negative light, I just exercised that to support my post, like I said shane...Not to be taken literally, because in that case it is absolute bullshit. Like, you see the person and you get the "there is certainly something about....that..", etc. I dont mean you love them instantly, you work on that. It took me about 4 years to realise this.
Its not just a spur of the moment thing, frames set and walls errected... Soon, I'll expect the streets falling into my window. And as for the Deanman, I was just thinking about you
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i think that at really any stage you should only have two reasons for being in a relationship. the first, and better one, would be aiming towards marriage/long-term commitment. the second reason, because you're stupid.
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Now this is a topic. I hope this does not get taken out of context. Adam, I did read your post, and that was awsome. And I will dignify it with a full response later and with my thoughts on it all
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| well i agree with some of this but some i think is just a load of crp |
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And what's a load of crap Robbie?
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:36 pm |
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Wilkins - Hurry up
Robbie - I want to hear this one
Elliott - Yes, people are very, very stupid. The worst part is that the stupid people are usually too stupid to realise how stupid they are. What must be going through their minds?
"I'm going to marry them, I'm going to have their babies, I am in love and i always will love you"
Dude its been three days since you've been going out with the person, shutup you don't know anything kid.
I was talking to this chick last night and she openly admitted to being a bit of a slut and she called most of her group whores. I thought it was funny so i talked to her more about it all, what they look for in guys and stuff...
The criteria is that they have to be hot/cute and funny. She started recommending some of her friends to me. These girls are going to grow up to be hookers. But what scared me the most was when she told me one of her friends 'cheats on her boyfriend every weekend.'
In this world cheating on someone means having sex, these are 15 year old girls! I was offered one to help her cheat on her boyfriend!
That is the scary world of stupid people.
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I said yes, im going to meet her this weekend
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4 hours...Spike time
Seriously, have a talk to her. Like how I wanted to find a hooker that time.
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I think its going to take more than a talk and an emo spike to the face to sort some of these people out... What they need is to be born again and have their daddy actually hug them. So many problems spiral out of a bad upbringing, especially self image ones which leads to sex and all the jazz.
Edit- Its worth a shot talking to her though, i gotta talk to all of their group and help them realise that they're a bit silly.
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Get them to come to Youth, but don't tell them. Like either drug them, or meet them down the creek.
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| That Guy wrote: | | well i agree with some of this but some i think is just a load of crp |
C'mon Robbie, you need to be more precise with your posts, you need to built upon the substance of your posting, it is exactly what you're going to be working on in your senior years. I want you to go into real depth of what you agree on and what you think it a load of crap. I think you have a lot of potential behind you, so show us what you've got. Show us the substance behind your posts that we all believe in.
As for you Wilkins, thank you very much.. I truely look forward to reading what you have to offer, because you often show such an out of shape, yet such a vital perspective on so many situations.
Shane, you should make a thread...Of your progression with this lot.
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I'd like to hear a lot more peoples views on love and stuff actually, Im looking forward to Wilkins' and even Robbies! I'm really looking forward to what he has to say just because I know its going to be something completely out there and different and i think i like it!
About these girls i don't know what i really can do... I can talk to them but even with that its how they were raised, i can't single handidly change their lives. I can only do good for them though i guess... The only thing is that there's something about their world which intruiges me.
There's something about sleeping around, not caring about the future, not caring about your friends and doing whatever feels right at the time without having a thousand thoughts ripping at you all the time that just intruiges me. Its not a good world to live in but it sure looks like fun. I aint gonna be stupid and go join them but the fact that it appeals to me makes me worry. I've already had to lie a bit about myself just to talk to her, I'm not a fan of that either.
The current plan of attack is an emo spike to the face. Am I crazy? Moderatly.
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The Wilkins’ thoughts on things:
As you all know that when it comes to predicting the opposite sex, I am what is referred to as “a bloody n00b”.
Back in late 2005, I went out with Becky Phillips, and when I went out with her I thought that I was in love. But looking back at it now I realise that those thoughts about how I was in love were completely out of place. Why? For one, you remember the incident at Wet n Wild? I got frustrated because I sat with Shane (the better option hehe) instead of her, she wouldn’t talk to me. The whole situation exploded in a matter of a couple of hours. And eventually we split up in a heated battle of guts and vomit. The reason why I don’t believe that we were in love because: Love perseveres through thick and thin. Our relationship did not have them qualities. The very second there was a weak moment, the relationship was called off. You don’t do that if you love somebody, you persevere.
I have also come to realise when it came to Jocelyn that was nothing but a rebound relationship. Pure and simple. We hardly talked or did anything. People that are in love or a real relationship will want to spend every second with each other. That wasn’t happening, just wasn’t happening.
Now to the topic at hand: I do not agree with relationships when our teenage years (don’t condone it, but if you find one cherish), we as a society of teenagers are not capable of making such an important decision of “I love him/her*. I look society in general and see that love has spanned so many different things, means so many different things, ultimately it means nothing. You look at the majority of teenagers in today’s society who use the word “love” as a disposable definition or some sort of second rated definition to justify how they like somebody.
No matter how tough or manly or good you think you are, we are all still teenagers and our hormones are still sorting themselves out, and we are still discovering ourselves and many vital things that will be with us until we die. One of these vital things will be a person who we will spend the rest of our lives with. I believe in preservation of the human being. That means having the least relationships as possible before we get married. I believe that we should wait on our feelings for somebody, not when you get a little “thing” for somebody rush into a relationship and whatever people nowadays.
I walked down to our area a couple of days ago and on my way down I heard an interesting quote from some year 8 girl: “hey *inserts name here* look at me, I’m sitting here with your ex-boyfriends* I look around and there was like 4 boys. I remember those boys and they were all a few weeks ago fondling with the girl. You can not tell me that that isn’t wrong. To rush in a relationship where you proclaim that you “love” somebody after a week or two is not a wise decision.
Love in my opinion is a process, a very long process. It takes a lot of energy and time. You need to know each other inside and out, and not each others insides. A lot of people especially teenagers enter relationships and commit to each other sexually because of what other people tell them what love is.
The common ways that this ideology enters the minds of teens is through television and popular music. The notion of loving somebody just because you have feelings for this person or you think that they are hot or something is often splattered across the nation’s screens each week day at 7pm in a show called Home and Away. I have watched this show in recent weeks, and there is a scandal regarding a teacher and a student engaging with each other because they had a split second thought and acted on it. A lot of people are like this, not in just student teacher relations but in a lot of teenagers to teenager relationships. They act on the first impression, because they believe in “love at first sight”, which in my opinion is a load of crap. It’s called as “you want to have sex with them”. That’s what it is. Teenagers are getting their important information from people who are going through the same hormonal things as them.
Popularity is another big killer in teenage society. You see many people get into relationships because other people are. A LOT DO. This once again is due to the epidemic of the soap opera epidemic. They see these people on television get into numerous relationships and if they want to be cool like them, they have to as well. Not to mention that teenagers who are looking up to these teenagers on screen and the go “well if they believe that’s what love is, then that’s what it must mean”. Basically that’s what happens. There are others who parade their relationship to give themselves puffed sense of importance.
Teenagers should look at the people from the older generation, the good old days when great uncle Bob and great aunty Marg were married for 60 years and see how their love for one another survived when Bob went to war. Not this you haven’t talked to me one time, I don’t love you stuff.
To conclude my speech, I respect Adam and Debbie; they are one of the FEW teenagers who have got it right. They don’t parade themselves around, they are usually quiet and they persevere through crap that other relationships would fold.
Well that’s all from me, I gotta fly and have a shower… I do not believe that teenagers should get into relationships, it really isn't needed
Seeya
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lol well
i think the love at first sight things is just ... how could you tell what someoneis really like and i read in the bible somewhere about seeing christians girls and it says something about how can the light have a realitionship with the darkness and what does a good person have in common with an evil one and it goes on and u get the impression that its important to find a nice christian person,
and i think some sort of a realitionhsip is good for everyperson to have but not just a hey youre hot lets start sucking each others faces off-espicially you tiffinay-because it lets you start coming into maturity and discoreving felling and that so if you have not had 1 realition ship and then there is someone you really like u sorta just stand there all dumb like or if you have been in a realitainship but not searious you will end up offending them because you will act the same stullish way that you did with you're last little random hookup and so there .
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